For the 86th episode of the Scottish Independence Podcast the guest was Stephen Paton.

You've probably been watching Stephen's Indyref Weekly series, and if you haven't I'd suggest you start. Reaching 1000s with every episode, they are well worth the watch.

We talked about Stephen's project and had a more general natter on indyref, the Commonwealth Games and much more.

As an aside, my attempt at recording the intro outside to experiment with that natural feel was quickly abandoned as I feel you already all know what the wind sounds like.

Hope you enjoy, and tell your friends, family and assorted quadrupeds…

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