This week we are joined by two awesome creators/engineers Jess and Scott. We discuss career change, history of the internet, and so much more!  

Jess (@therubberduckiee): 

https://linktr.ee/TheRubberDuckiee 

https://tiktok.com/@therubberduckiee 

Scott (@shanselman): 

https://www.hanselman.com 

https://tiktok.com/@shanselman 

https://www.youtube.com/user/shanselman