Hosts Al Kellock, Chris Paterson and Rachel Malcolm catch up with Scottish Rugby referee's Mike Adamson and Hollie Davidson for our first podcast of 2021. Mike and Hollie discuss their recent appointments, the changes to training and preparation within the Scottish Rugby set-up and how they have had to adapt their on-field refereeing due to the current COVID-19 pandemic. Hollie tells us her pathway from player to referee and Mike, who will officiate England v Italy in round two of the Guinness Six Nations, gives us an insight into his transition from Scotland 7s to becoming an international referee.