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Scrying a Water Way with ROBIN PACE, River Runner [Immersion] | Kinward 20[I] 🌕


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In this short and playful Immersion, the first episode of the second season of Kinward Podcast, my friend Robin and I make contact with the mystery via river rocks with holes in them: windows that water opened.

There aren’t many people I’d rather look at water with than Robin Pace, a rooted adventurer, whitewater river guide, cast iron sourdough chef, and wayfinder. As long as we’ve known each other, I’ve admired Robin for the way she moves through the world balancing hard-won skills, intelligence, palpable love (including a deep love for fun), and craft.

Our full conversation with Robin—who guides whitewater rafting trips with her outfit Winding Waters, based in Joseph, Oregon—will air in a couple of weeks. Today, in this Immersion, we explore a water way together, weaving several modes of sensing and understanding, from the quiet center of “seeing out from a cave,” as Robin describes the view from her rock, to the celebration of the geological musical bang clunk chime of canyons digging themselves deeper in spring. I hope you enjoy the ride, and I invite you to try on a few of the practices Robin and I play with for cracking the windows to the mystery a little wider open.

You can expect more practical magic in this season of Kinward, along with our usual nerdy deep dives and animist invocations.

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