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A child’s-eye view can cut through decades of PR. Lily returns to tell us what it felt like to grow up around Shelly Miscavige, learn study tech at three, and watch the contrast between careful, step-by-step application and a leadership culture that prized speed, control, and shortcuts. Her stories aren’t abstract; they’re scenes: a room where anger ruled, a blow softened by Shelly’s care, and a “bridge” that felt more like a conveyor belt. When Lily describes going “clear” on an altered path versus going clear through original LRH methods, you hear the difference—one packed with lingering charge, the other opening real space.

We dig into the hard parts—physical abuse, fear that kept people quiet, and the carrot of new OT levels always just a couple of years away. Lily talks about promises that didn’t materialize, whispers of destroyed masters, and the way leverage grows when source materials disappear. And then there’s the line that still stings: if you shorten the route “because you can,” you don’t just change pacing; you change outcomes. That’s why so many wonder why modern “OTs” don’t shine like the stories—they were sent up a ladder with rungs missing.

Shelly stands in relief: high standards, precise sequence, and a human touch that didn’t confuse care with compromise. That example, paired with Lily’s lived wins on unaltered tech, points to a simple conclusion: the subject is one thing; the corporate machine is another. We talk frankly about independent Scientology, why AOGP insists on doing it standard, and how real auditing, proper C/Sing, and sane costs restore trust without demanding your silence.

If you’ve wrestled with the gap between what you were promised and what you received, this conversation will give you vocabulary, history, and a path forward. Subscribe for more first-hand accounts, share with someone who needs the distinction between independent standard tech and a fraudulent corporate system of alteration and deceit.

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