Actor Sean Penn feels relieved to be Conan O’Brien’s friend.

Sean sits down with Conan to discuss finding a balance between art and advocacy, the modern preoccupation with optics over empathy, and working with CORE to make positive change in the world. Later, Sona and Matt Gourley bring a Conan-centric dating app exchange to life.

See Sean Penn in his new film Flag Day, releasing August 20th.

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