We interviewed journalist and scholar J. Michael Cole. A Senior Non-Resident Fellow with GTI, Cole is a leading expert on Taiwanese foreign policy and domestic politics. In a wide-ranging interview, Cole discusses his thoughts on cross-Strait relations, Chinese foreign policy, as well as his recent book, Cross-Strait Relations since 2016: The End of the Illusion, which provides a comprehensive overview of the Taiwan-China relationship.

Producer: Marshall Reid, Jack Liu

Host: Marshall Reid, Joseph Ross

Edit: Joseph Ross, Jack Liu

Music: Joseph Ross