Dr. Mike Demille is a Physical Therapist and the owner of Divergence Physical Therapy and Wellness, in Wellesley, Massachusetts. He is certified through the Postural Restoration Institute. He uses their principles to guide his work where he spans the spectrum of rehab and performance, working with athletes and general population. In this episode we talked about chronic pain and nocioception, and how we can better communicate with patients in pain. He discusses how important it is to get clients back to strength and conditioning where they don't have to worry about their biomechanics in a conscious way. He also discusses using a mechanical approach vs. a pain neuroscience education approach and how he blends those two worlds. Mike is exceptionally articulate and has a way of explaining nuance in a way that makes so much sense. If you struggle to express to your clients and patients why this work is important and how to reframe their experience of pain, then you definitely want to listen to how Mike communicates! He discusses how he creates categories that are more specific to avoid putting people into too broad of a context that doesn't lead to the best outcomes. The specificity is critical to his practice and success. "It's borderline unethical to put a patient in the scenario of relying on all of our cues as a practitioner", is one of the many amazing sentences he said in the podcast. He also gives his thoughts on the climate of instagram and social media and how different the approach is to how we treat one another in person vs. online. Jill immediately says, "wow, thats an unbelievable metaphor for life, and I offer to let Mike and his wife, Erin adopt me 😂". There are so many ah ha and holy moly moments in this podcast, you do not want to miss a single word! Please enjoy and share. You can watch it live on YouTube. You can find out more about Mike on his Instagram and on his website. His program for clinicians and trainers is called Solidify. Listen to it on: Spotify Apple Podcast Follow us on Instagram or Facebook