This episode we talk about some fascinating and contentious research into the nature of matter

http://www.salon.com/2015/01/03/god_is_on_the_ropes_the_brilliant_new_science_that_has_creationists_and_the_christian_right_terrified/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e91D5UAz-f4

Also, religion, atheism, why cat poo smells bad, and Chris' story about a man who liked to poo on people. :)

Music by the brilliant ALL http://all.tumblr.com/ and the equally brilliant Tim Minchin http://www.timminchin.com/