Episode 7 of ChatNAPT with A.I. Chatterbots Chuck & Howie features Peter Unger, co-founder of IQEIS and former President & CEO of A2LA. With decades of experience from NIST to building A2LA, Peter shares how the organization got its start, the role of General Motors, and why proficiency testing is essential to lab accreditation. Chuck and Howie reflect on their early days with Peter, discuss global PT challenges, and bust myths about government-led accreditation. A must-listen for anyone in the lab world.