Special edition! This month, we take a break from Iranian internet policy to bring you a live report from the Citizen Lab Summer Institute in Toronto. We caught up with Citizen Lab director Ron Deibert, and asked him about the history of the Citizen Lab, his thoughts on censorship, and some of the challenges he faces in his work. Check out the interview below.

Producer: Mo Hoseini

Host: Kyle Bowen

Guest: Ron Deibert

Editorial Advisor: James Marchant

Music by Longzijun