In this episode, Mark and Jeff discuss the trials and tribulations of retiring and things you need to consider to help prepare.  We also discuss the need to change management as you sell your business and transition from a role that might define your identity.  We talk about the three things you need to have a successful retirement.

We also discuss things we learned, introduce a new cast member and review media we have consumed including Top Gun Maverick, Ozark, Strange New Worlds and Obi-Wan Kenobi