Justin and Stephen talk about the presidential debates, the dissertation process, and then are joined by Charles Galbreath to discuss his multicultural church context in Brooklyn.

Charles talks about the lessons he has learned from pastoring his diverse and largely Black congregation, with congregants from many different linguistic and cultural backgrounds. He also discusses what it means to be a pastor not only to his church but also for his neighborhood.

Charles, Justin, and Stephen talk about how the American church has responded to the events of the last six months, particularly around racial trauma and injustice. They also discuss the relationship between the church and Christian higher ed, and how the people of Jesus could be leading discussions of justice instead of reacting to them.

Charles explains why he is both encouraged and discouraged and repeats Jesus’s question about whether we want to be healed.

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