Dive into a profound conversation with Stacy Guthrie, a woman raised in a devout, founding Mesa family, who confesses she took her relationship with the Savior for granted, realizing He was just "always just there" until immense trials forced her to rely on Him in adulthood.

Stacy openly navigates the complex tension between church culture and true doctrine, revealing the "friction" that arises from cultural judgments—including comments she receives for wearing pants to church. A lifelong "textbook learner" who seeks knowledge, Stacy shares the transformative realization that she must be "OK with sitting in the belief instead" of constantly needing definitive answers. She advocates for members to stand and say "I believe" rather than rigidly declaring "I know" when bearing testimony.

The episode features her undeniable personal testimony (something she knows): a miraculous account of a refund check arriving precisely when her family chose to pay their mortgage and tithing after her husband lost his job, demonstrating the blessings of obedience. Stacy concludes by sharing the single, powerful message she hopes the Savior knows: "I'm trying, that I'm not perfect, but that I'm really trying. I'm not giving up".