In this engaging conversation, Mike Griffin and Adrienne Eliades explore the multifaceted world of ceramics and art education. They discuss the significance of cultural roots, the value of residencies and workshops, and the dynamics of teaching and learning in the arts. The conversation delves into the challenges artists face in balancing their creative practices with commercial demands, the impact of social media on artistic expression, and the importance of community in fostering growth. Adrienne shares her experiences in the Native arts program and the role it plays in enriching the artistic landscape. Ultimately, the discussion highlights the continuous journey of artists as they navigate their paths and seek purpose in their work. In this engaging conversation, Mike Griffin and Adrienne Eliades explore the multifaceted journey of being a potter, discussing the balance between career longevity and passion projects, the challenges of surface decoration, and the importance of community in the pottery world. They delve into the evolution of artistic practice, the impact of social media, and the necessity of embracing vulnerability in artistic expression. Throughout the dialogue, they share personal anecdotes and insights, emphasizing the significance of growth, collaboration, and finding one's voice in the art community.