Have you ever eaten Pharoah's Bread (I found this in Paris, of all places!)?  Or heard of King Tut Wheat?  In this episode we talk to Dr. Liz Carlisle about her journey into the world of Kamut - an ancient Egyptian wheat, and her path into deeper understandings of the intersections between humans and agriculture.   She is an Associate Professor at the University of California Santa Barbara, where she teaches and conducts research on transitions to more sustainable approaches to agriculture.  More information can be found at her faculty webpage as well as her personal webpage.
Our music is Inspiring Cinematic Asia by Lexin Music, which is available at Pixabay.