The geometry of buildings, architects that don't give a damn, what do designers actually create? In this episode Felix and Aleksey further dive into the debate of experiences vs environments. Why all experiences are a fad, and environments are the next big thing. Aleksey learns what it actually takes to produce an iPhone, gets scared by capitalist scale of production, while Felix challenges ecosystems and their physicalities. In this episode the pair of brave explorers of non-sense further define humanities next frontier. Or not. You never know till next episode.