*This podcast episode is dedicated to Debbie Leighton, a member of The Gathering and a dear friend, a true heroine, who passed away in 2021.* 

In this heartfelt episode, Susanna chats with Shirley Hager about her extensive background in facilitation and her inspiring work with indigenous people. Shirley shares her journey, the importance of creating bonds, and the story behind her impactful book. Join Susanna and Shirley for an enlightening discussion on fostering connections and understanding across cultures.

“There was something I wanted to say... I think it's important to hear that you don't need to meet as we did to make this kind of thing happen. You can create that sort of bonding anywhere.” - Shirley Hager

01:20 Introducing Shirley Hager.

07:13  Shirley's call on her journey. 

23:25  Shirley talks about her book and how it came about. 

Shirley N. Hager is a retired associate professor with the University of Maine Cooperative Extension. Currently, she serves with the Friends (Quaker) Committee on Maine Public Policy and chairs its Committee on Tribal-State Relations.

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