Mandee and Rachel recently took a road trip together and did some recording in the car. In this episode, they talk about Amber and Johnny's court case and the use of mental health as a defense. Please note, we do share our opinions on her diagnosis, but we are not professionals. You can expect more conversations on these topics as we can't help ourselves. :-)

Please note that they discuss abuse and mental health and some of the conversation may be triggering.

Audio quality isn't ideal because of the sound of the car, but we still believe it is worth sharing. Thanks for listening.