In this conversation, Matt Karabinos, a sixth-grade teacher, discusses his experience with Maurie and Jim about using artificial intelligence (AI) in the classroom. He shares how he initially hesitated to use AI but eventually saw the benefits after seeing other teachers' success stories. The conversation explores the use of AI in education and its impact on teaching and learning. The speakers discuss the importance of problem-solving and critical thinking skills, the challenges of high-stakes testing, and the need to balance traditional instruction and AI-driven tools. They also touch on the ethical considerations of AI usage, the role of AI in K-12 and higher education, and the importance of AI literacy. The conversation highlights the need for curiosity and open-mindedness regarding AI in education.