On this episode we're talking grey areas, abortion stigma, and emotional safety. We’re so excited to welcome Vanessa Arenas as our guest and as Preterm’s new Deputy Director! She reads a story about someone who found their decision to have an abortion challenging and complicated, even though they identify as pro-choice – something we know is true for so many. Check into this episode to hear more about self and safety, as well as a thoughtful update on self-managed abortion.