Dave interviews Jim about the life of Frank Ford, an experimental writer and professor who died recently at age 90. They explore creative connections and
teaching/mentor relationships between Frank, his student Thom Williams, and Jim, who was a student of both. To access a complete archive of Frank's writing, go to https://archive.org/details/frankbford

Young Italian Girl Resting On Her Elbow--Cezanne
by Frank B. Ford

Such indolence
becomes the light
encounter-

ing her
and him
and us.

What is the art of years
but connecting
light?

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