GUESTS: Caleb Woods & Esteban Ríos

It's a bonus episode! This bonus episode is a special thank you for your patience in the lateness of episode uploads.

It's a rare opportunity to listen to some extended versions of talking points, outtakes, and things that would generally be left on the cutting room floor. All taken from the two parts of "The Incident" recordings, it features host Paul and guests Caleb and Esteban in some interesting conversations.