The Imperfect Advocate Podcast

Season 5, Special Series |11 Life Lessons from Stranger Things – Lesson 9: Meet people where they are


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In this episode of 11 Life Lessons from Stranger Things, Karen and Bill explore the power of empathy in driving change. Inspired by Murray Bauman’s advice to Nancy and Jonathan in Season 2, they unpack how meeting people where they are isn’t about deception—it’s about translation and understanding.

Drawing on psychologist Dr. Renée Lertzman’s concept of radical attunement, Karen explains how real change begins when we tune into both our own emotions and others’—whether they’re anxious, ambivalent, or aspiring toward action.

From the hive mind of the Upside Down to our own cultural habits, this episode reminds us that transformation starts with connection, not correction.

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The Imperfect Advocate PodcastBy Karen C. Auld