Join this thought-provoking podcast as Erin Barisano talks with Catholic Education Services President Rob Birdsell and Kent Hickey on the transformative power of Catholic school boards. They explore why today’s governance challenges demand spiritual grounding, intentional culture‑building, and true discernment—not business‑as‑usual decision‑making.

Learn what makes an effective board “apostolic,” how communication protocols strengthen the president–board relationship, and why cultivating a “thick,” mission‑driven culture leads to healthier schools and holier leadership. Packed with practical insights and inspiring stories, this conversation reframes board service as sacred work in service of the Church.