Have you ever considered that Jesus is who he is because of a woman? Co-hosts Patricia Taylor and Kayla Craig talk with writer Kat Armas about this bigger, expansive, abuelita faith—one that persists, resists, and survives.

In this episode, we:

• Discuss the influence of Kat’s Roman Catholic upbringing on having a tangible and embodied view of Mother Mary
• Talk about Julian of Norwich’s image of Jesus as mother as well as Jesus being raised by a mother and being mothered himself
• Marvel at how marginalized women can contain the most sacred and most holy
• Define what abuelita theology means and how it’s birthed through our lived experiences
• Go over the difference between persistence and resistance and where they can meet and overlap on the journey to justice
• Ask who is in our spiritual genealogies and who are the theologians in our lives who wouldn’t be considered one by the dominant culture
• Wonder what are the places where we haven’t been trained to experience God 

Join us for this stirring conversation about what a lived theology looks like from the perspective of being a woman. We hope that it enriches your experience of the Advent season.

News, Notes, and Links:

• Follow along with Kat through her website, on Instagram, on Twitter, and through her podcast. You pick up her beautiful book, Abuelita Faith, here. 
• Check out the Chasing Justice Masterclass that Kat co-led with Dr. Yolanda Pierce, “Rooted: Elders, Ancestors, and Collective Memory” here.
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