When Kanye West released his recent album Jesus Is King, Christian reactions were across the board; from complete acceptance to confusion to total distrust, despite many of the lyrics being very Biblically based. In lieu of this hot topic, Greg and RD jump into conversations about conversion, centered around Kanye's spiritual journey.

Because we live in a time of emotionally-charged ministries, some people respond to services or Christian events out of emotion only. RD calls these false conversions, in that the conversion was just for a moment, not a life change. There are some who claim that Kanye's conversion is exactly this, but before we as Christians jump to this conclusion without knowing Kanye's heart , we need to remember Paul's letter to the church in Corinth where he tells them that love "believes all things." While we are called to press into other Christians' spiritual lives, we have to do so in love and with grace.

With this in mind, we do need to be careful of who we are allowing to be spiritual leaders. It's irresponsible to take a brand-new Believer and tell them to go be a small group leader or pastor; brand new Believers need time to grow and cultivate their faith, and learn from people who have been in the faith a long time. When you become a Christian, you do not immediately stop sinning overnight, nor should you be held to that kind of standard. So it's not fair to expect someone like Kanye to know everything about Christianity, or just immediately drop all of his sins. We also need to remember that Kanye is having to live out his spiritual life in front of the whole world, so anytime he falls or sins, it's going to be incredibly public, and he's going to need grace.

Throughout their conversation, RD and Greg remind listeners that you cannot compare your spiritual walk to anyone else's journey. No matter what your story is, God can redeem you and bring you to Him, and even the most unlikely person can become a Christian. In fact, it's an absolute miracle that God brings anyone to Himself. The notion of "it was easier for God to forgive me than you because I sinned less" is ridiculous; God has to give us all enormous amounts of grace, mercy, and forgiveness.