During a town hall meeting, presidential candidate Bernie Sanders was asked, "Is there such a thing as a pro-life Democrat in your vision of the party?" Sanders responded by saying, "I think being pro-choice is an absolutely essential part of being a Democrat." This comment started all kinds of conversations amidst the presidential campaign, and with Christians alike. With that in mind, Greg and RD jump into the conversation of abortion in order to help Christians walk through what RD calls the most divisive topic in politics right now.

To start, RD shares that his wife Emily used to work at a crisis pregnancy center in Wisconsin, so he lets the listener know that this topic is very close to his heart. After sharing that, RD goes on to assert that God is the author of life, so God and God alone gets to decide when a life ends or begins. He also conveys that he's passionate about this because he sees the world viewing Christians as only caring about abortion and homosexuality on the most basic of levels instead of engaging in a conversation about a bigger vision.

Greg chimes in by saying that while the church is heavily involved in birth-to-death ministries, individual Christians can get sucked into conversations about abortion only, and don't consider being pro-life for the entirety of that life. Greg implores the listener to find places and conversations in the world where they can be engaged and provide a bigger vision; that is what will bring about true social justices, he says. Both Greg and RD agree that we as Christians have to be bigger than a political party.

RD references how the early church didn't give in to the political pressures of the day. Instead, the early church was known for their care of the poor and infants. And more than just dispute abortion, the church would take in unwanted infants, as the practice of the day was to literally throw away unwanted babies.

In conclusion, RD stresses that if you've had an abortion, there is room in God's Kingdom for you still, because God is a God of forgiveness, grace, and healing. Greg agrees with this and adds that our vision for why people are important shouldn't come from their status or utility; it's instead their created nature in the image of God that matters.