On this episode of the Osborne Adventure Podcast, we sit down with my dad to talk about Ren and our expedition—but the conversation takes an unexpected turn into his career as a whale trainer at SeaWorld in the 1970s. It was an era of firsts, discovery, and working with incredible animals in ways few people ever have. We talk about what it was like to pioneer marine mammal training, SeaWorld’s early role in conservation, and being part of something that helped change how the world saw whales. This is part 1 of a fascinating conversation offering a rare glimpse into a world most people will never hear about, straight from someone who lived it.

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