What does it look like to heal in ways that traditional therapy can't touch? Deb Haynie has spent over two decades as a licensed psychotherapist — and somewhere along the way, she realized that talk therapy alone wasn't getting people all the way home. So she went deeper.

A shamanic guide, wing woman advisor at Moms on Mushrooms, and student of legendary consciousness researchers Stan Grof and Sandra Ingerman, Deb works at the intersection of psychology, spirituality, and altered states — helping people align with what their soul already knows.

In this episode, Deb shares what two decades in the therapy room taught her, why psychedelics are reshaping what healing can look like, and what it really means to surrender to your path.

What We Cover

• Why traditional psychotherapy can only go so far — and what lies beyond it
• How psychedelics have been used for centuries to access deeper dimensions of healing
• What shamanic practice and modern therapy have in common (more than you'd think)
• The role of grief, synchronicity, and surrender in finding your way through
• Practical guidance for anyone curious about psychedelic therapy — and how to approach it safely

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If This Episode Moved You Share it with someone who's done the therapy, read the books, and still feels like something's missing. And if you're curious about what psychedelic-assisted healing actually looks like in practice, this episode is a grounded, compassionate place to start.

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