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This is our Second First Episode ever! We recorded a first show ever, but it was terrible. After months of tinkering we learned how to do podcasting - sort of. This Second First Episode  is much better, but still not very good. We suggest that you skip it and go right to our Second Second Episode Ever.  Also if you would like to leave a mean comment on our Facebook page, good luck with that, we don't have one. So if you insist on listening to our Second First Episode ever you will hear us eat some Asian snacks and have a pointless conversation about something, I can't remember what, but it definitely wasn't memorable. Please enjoy or not, we won't tell you what to do. Recorded June 18, 2021. 

Thank you so much for listening,

Brendan and Richard
Middle Aged Man Talk

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