Grace and Kathryn sit down to reflect on hearing Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson and her perspective on dissents, originalism, and the future of the Court. They highlight South Carolina’s upcoming December 23 special elections, why turnout matters, and the role of women in reshaping local politics. The episode also honors everyday civic hope—from the legacy of Spartanburg’s former mayor Junie White to a moving encounter with a 95-year-old attendee and a roadside “motivational sign lady”.