What happens when our spiritual experience expands beyond what we’ve been taught about religion?

In this episode of Beyond Names, Dr. Habīb Boerger speaks with actor, writer, and secular chaplain Elizabeth Morton about the lifelong path of seeking the sacred in unexpected places.

Elizabeth shares her journey from a Catholic upbringing in Kentucky to becoming an interfaith minister, spiritual director, and ultimately a secular chaplain—someone who companions others spiritually without requiring religious belief. Along the way, she reflects on the power of ritual, the freedom of living in the questions, and the spiritual courage required to unlearn fear-based religious ideas.

Together, Habīb and Elizabeth explore:

• What it means to be a spiritual seeker
• The role of ritual in cultivating reverence
• Why many people today feel wounded by religion yet still long for the sacred
• The spiritual journey of authenticity
• Unlearning fear-based images of God and rediscovering the Divine as Love

The conversation also touches on mystical awakening, surprising spiritual moments, and the profound realization that the holy can be encountered anywhere—if we are willing to see it.

Whether you identify as religious, spiritual-but-not-religious, or simply curious, this episode invites you to explore how reverence, authenticity, and compassion can guide your own path.

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