In this episode of Let’s Talk Data, host Daniel Dukes of SAP America is joined by Lisa Horwich, founder of Pallas Research and a leading B2B tech qualitative researcher who interviews CISOs, data architects, and security professionals to surface actionable insights for technology companies. 

Lisa and Daniel explore how AI is fundamentally reshaping the cybersecurity landscape- from AI-powered phishing and expanded attack surfaces to risks like prompt injection, jailbreaking, and data poisoning. They also tackle the persistent challenge of shadow data and data sprawl, where sensitive information lives outside sanctioned IT infrastructure, making it nearly impossible to classify and protect. 

The conversation covers the spectrum of security tools available to organizations, from point solutions to holistic Data Security Posture Management (DSPM) platforms, and closes with key best practices: zero trust, least privileged access, multi-factor authentication, and using AI defensively to combat the very threats it enables. 

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SAP Trust Center: Data Protection & Privacy: SAP’s dedicated trust center resource covering data protection policies, privacy safeguards, and the security protocols SAP employs across its cloud ecosystem — directly relevant to the episode’s discussion of data visibility, shadow data, and keeping sensitive organizational data secure.