We sit down with Æva Black as she shares her journey from creating OpenStack Ironic to leading security policy at Microsoft and CISA. Discussion covers the economics of competing with hyperscalers, Europe's Cyber Resilience Act, managing software dependency complexity, AI's impact on security (including the rise of "vibe hackers"), and a powerful story about how a casual conference conversation led to influencing White House cybersecurity strategy.

OpenStack Ironic - https://ironicbaremetal.org/

Omnibor - https://omnibor.io

The cURL project - https://everything.curl.dev/project/index.html

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For a video version of this podcast, check out https://youtu.be/Z6h-Sfle83g.

The GR-OSS OUT Podcast is produced by Ben Wiley.

Special Guest: Æva Black.