DevSecOps, it's a thing. While some say absolutely, others say pleee-ase. I speak with Mike Kail, CTO founder of Cybric about how some of the biggest pushback on DevSecOps comes not from the Dev or Ops crowd, but from the security teams. Whats up with that? Are the security team too territorial? Do they relish their otherness? Mike who has a long history including executive stints at Netflix and Yahoo gives us his reasoning.