In this podcast, we speak with Chris Delaney, ASIAL Industrial Relations Advisor, Joh Paynter, Paynter Security (TBC) and Leni Ison, Executive Manager Business, ACES about whether or not there is a disconnect between ‘price makers’ and ‘price takers’ as to the value of security? How do we improvement procurement practices? What role should government play and are the penalties for non-compliance sufficient to deter poor practices?