Podcast hosts get to meet many people in many lines of business but very few have introduced me to a totally new way of looking at the IT industry. Michael Angelo has spent many, many years in the security realm, forging a career in solving problems and keeping ahead of the cyber criminals. His career started before security was cool and has spanned the breadth and depth of the discipline. Having time with a person so invested in CyberRes is a pleasure and his easy, welcoming style could have gone on for a long time. But today's episode focused on securing the Software Supply Chain (SSC). Angelo describes the concept of a SSC and the magnitude of the challenge facing the industry. Think BILLIONS…. He then zones in to practical tips for dealing with the challenge, introduces the idea of Orphan Dependencies and what any team should focus on. The message of ‘Don’t panic.” Comes across very strongly. There are even tips for career seekers who are thinking of getting into the security world and how they can make the most of this ever-growing field. The episode concluded with Angelo providing a view of the future releases from Microfocus and advice for CSIO’s dealing with complex SSC issues. “Where are we, what is the risk we are facing and how do we fix it.”