Brent Lassi and special guest Mike Hurwitz join me again for part II on security. Brent Lassi co-founded one of the first AppSec companies called Apex, and he now works as the CISO at Bluecore. Mike Hurwitz is a Principal Engineer at Bluecore and has previously worked at Tumblr and Shutterstock. In this episode we talk more about the evolution of security in the last few years-- both about the advantages of the cloud and the lessons learned. We discuss what enterprise viability means for both software engineers and security professionals, and how people play a big part. We talk about some recent events, like the SolarWinds hack, and what we can learn from them. 

Click here to read a little bit about what I learned from this episode.

The intro music was made by my talented friend Brendan McMahon. Check out his soundcloud.