In this episode Sekai interviews Elejandro, otherwise known as Elly Vineyard. Sekai and Elly explore a variety of topics such as the three main strands of his work; Voguing (as the father of House of Vineyard), his nail salon Tens and his love for plants and plant care. They also discuss ideas of Black masculinities and how his upbringing in St Maarten influenced his approach to life in the Netherlands.

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