At times, self care can feel like work for people who are chronically ill. Gabby and Andrea break down what is self care vs. self-numbing behavior. They also delve into abundance vs. scarcity mindsets and when to stop doing things that are no longer serving you. 19 minutes in, they share their favorite deep breathing exercises. At minute 31, they talk about the role of intimacy in self care. Around 39 minutes, they expand on how outward acts of self love toward oneself can work its way in.