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What does it mean to navigate the world as a mixed heritage individual when belonging feels just out of reach? In this episode, Shawna and co-host Kat Aragon welcome Marcel De Jonghe, Head of DEI&B for Europe’s largest local authority, to explore identity, belonging, and the intersections of race and culture. Marcel shares his personal journey as a Zimbabwean-Belgian navigating life in the UK, the challenges of being "not quite Black enough" and "not quite White enough," and how his work in equity and inclusion is shaping a more thoughtful, empathetic world. The conversation covers microaggressions, the power of "sensitive curiosity", and how we can all work toward fostering true belonging—at work, at home, and in our communities. Tune in for an insightful and heartfelt discussion about identity, advocacy, and breaking down barriers.
Watch the episode on YouTube!
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- The changing categories the U.S. census has used to measure race
- 1930 Census Instructions to Enumerators
- "Instructions to Enumerators" [ORIGINAL]
- Who’s White? Who’s Black? Who Knows?
- John Agard reads his poem, Half-Caste and Half-Caste (John Agard)
If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background on the show. Don't forget to follow us on Instagram!
Interested in being a guest? Head to this link to share your story with us!
Our True Colors is powered by True Culture Coaching & Consulting. Head to our website to find out how True Culture Coaching and Consulting can support you and your organization, and subscribe to our LinkedIn Newsletter, The Culture Clinic, for more great content.
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What does it mean to navigate the world as a mixed heritage individual when belonging feels just out of reach? In this episode, Shawna and co-host Kat Aragon welcome Marcel De Jonghe, Head of DEI&B for Europe’s largest local authority, to explore identity, belonging, and the intersections of race and culture. Marcel shares his personal journey as a Zimbabwean-Belgian navigating life in the UK, the challenges of being "not quite Black enough" and "not quite White enough," and how his work in equity and inclusion is shaping a more thoughtful, empathetic world. The conversation covers microaggressions, the power of "sensitive curiosity", and how we can all work toward fostering true belonging—at work, at home, and in our communities. Tune in for an insightful and heartfelt discussion about identity, advocacy, and breaking down barriers.
Watch the episode on YouTube!
Stuff to check out from mentions in the episode:
- What’s the difference between “Inuit” and “Eskimo”?
- What's in a Name? The Meaning of "La Raza"
- The changing categories the U.S. census has used to measure race
- 1930 Census Instructions to Enumerators
- "Instructions to Enumerators" [ORIGINAL]
- Who’s White? Who’s Black? Who Knows?
- John Agard reads his poem, Half-Caste and Half-Caste (John Agard)
If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background on the show. Don't forget to follow us on Instagram!
Interested in being a guest? Head to this link to share your story with us!
Our True Colors is powered by True Culture Coaching & Consulting. Head to our website to find out how True Culture Coaching and Consulting can support you and your organization, and subscribe to our LinkedIn Newsletter, The Culture Clinic, for more great content.