This is a recorded phone call where I’m calling to talk to Alex and then the very beginning of the call it is obvious how unstable and unpredictable Carl’s mother is. She responded in aggressive and impulsive manner when I simply tell her that I was recording the phone call. Unfortunately my ex husband would rather someone who is an as unstable as he is take care of our children which also includes anyone who has a past of abusing children like my mother did.

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