This is another recorded phone call where my ex-husband immediately starts yelling at me and being verbally abusive regarding the exchange of our older son. The unpredictable behavior and impulsive behavior of my ex-husband and his mother is the exact reason why I needed witnesses for the exchange of the kids because they could not be trusted. I did not feel Feel that it was safe for our children to interact with my ex-husband and his mother without someone present and I did not feel it was safe for myself either.

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