Chris Redfern, former Chairman of the Ohio Democratic Party, sits down at Chateau Winery in Sandusky County to interview someone who knows what it means to represent rural Ohio, Chris Gibbs (@ChrisRGibbs). As a farmer who gained national attention for his departure from the Republican Party and his former role as the GOP Chair of his Ohio county, Chris Gibbs currently serves as the Chairman of the Shelby County Democrats and Chair of the Ohio Democratic Rural Caucus. Chris and Chris dissect what this transition has been like, what led him to depart from the party he represented most of his life, and how Democrats can refocus on their own backyards to gain ground in 2026. Our host opened up a bottle of Chateau Winery's Petite Sirah so settle in with a glass of your own and chart the path forward to 2026.