An extension of the conversation started in episode 10, executive producer Ken Woodard checks in with Urvi Morrison to talk about the lead-up to the SET Lab conference on June 1 and the particulars of where his investigation into student perspectives on in-class group learning is. Urvi and Ken talk about their collaboration to bring this survey-based study to a useful conclusion in the midst of other pressing job and life demands. This is for teachers who see themselves as lifelong scholars with interest in finding ways to squeeze real research into hectic lives.