<p>Tony chats with his dear friend, Seth O'Donovan, about the goats she loves, her favorite herbs, having a contract with the animals she butchers, knowing your place in the process, finding brains in the freezer, loving queerness, being a housewife, submitting to the cycles, and the freedom that comes with submission.</p>

Tony chats with his dear friend, Seth O'Donovan, about the goats she loves, her favorite herbs, having a contract with the animals she butchers, knowing your place in the process, finding brains in the freezer, loving queerness, being a housewife, submitting to the cycles, and the freedom that comes with submission.

Seth O’Donovan: ”It’s all about connection”

Outdoorsman and theologian Tony Jones sits down with fascinating people who find transcendence in their outdoors experiences. Hunters and anglers, hikers and kayakers, talk about how they connect to the divine, and to themselves, as they pursue their passions. The conversations are at turns poignant and humorous, illuminating and inspiring. If your spirituality is connected to the outdoors, this is the podcast for you.

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Seth O’Donovan: ”It’s all about connection”

Seth O’Donovan: ”It’s all about connection”