Some conversations make you laugh… and then make you sit back and reflect. This one does both.In this episode of The Call with Nancy Sabato, I talk with Hillary Caitlyn Phillips about what it looks like to follow Jesus in real life — when family relationships are painful, when boundaries are necessary, and when your heart is trying to find peace without losing love.Hillary shares her honest story of complicated family dynamics, learning to choose wisdom over emotion, and how God can bring peace even when relationships don’t look the way we hoped.We also step into an urgent topic: child trafficking and prevention. Hillary shares what trafficking often looks like behind the scenes — not always kidnapping, but grooming, manipulation, and exploiting vulnerability — and why awareness can save lives.Above all… this episode reminds us: JOY isn’t shallow. It’s strength. It’s Jesus.What you’ll hear in this episode:
• Setting boundaries without bitterness
• Healing journeys inside family pain
• Grief and faith happening together
• What child trafficking grooming can look like
• Why Jesus is the anchor through it all📖 Key Scripture: Nehemiah 8:10 — “The joy of the Lord is your strength.”
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