Full transcript available on the blog: https://acevoblogs.wordpress.com/2019/06/03/podcast-kate-lee

In the third episode, Vicky meets Kate Lee, CEO of CLIC Sargent, to talk about the lies we tell ourselves that make us feel good as leaders, what true collaboration means, why we have to be brave in setting goals and learning from failure, and why we should be better at handling the hot potato that is charity chief executives' salary.