Beloved psychology professor Erin Ambrose joins Mark and Rex for part 2 of their discussion on sex and Christian culture.

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Welcome to Jessup think I'm your host Mark Moore and your co host Rex Gurney. And Rex. This is part two of sex and Christian culture. Right. And we have an expert guests with them, right? We've brought in an expert, Dr. Erin Ambrose, who's in our psychology department. And it was it was such a good conversation. It really was slides. So we hope you enjoy it. And we hope you, you gain the knowledge that she that she has to offer that can help us in this really important topic.

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We're excited. I am excited for this episode. So this is part two. And I'm really excited because we have a special guest, right?

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We figured we needed an expert after, after our last podcast. Exactly. We were looking around and we realized we had one in our midst. That's right.

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So we're really glad to welcome Erin Ambrose. Hey, I'm so glad to be here. Yeah. So and you're part of our psychology department.

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I teach psychology here. And then I also have a private practice. So nice, both sides of psychology that academia and also their how to practice

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and actually put it into practice. That's great. And how long have you been Jessa 12 years? Oh, nice. Beer. So we got we got a good crew here. We got a crew. That's almost all in the decade of being here and longer racks. So like you started as an adjunct and then worked my way in. We've done the same journey.

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Yeah, sorry. Yes, I drink too. But this time, we're way back in San Jose, when we were just on the quarter system, actually. And oh, wow, I almost didn't last pass my last my first sajak. But then here I am, like 16 years. laters. Right. There you go there and a lot. Right. Yeah,

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going, right. I have a way of like, drawing us in one class at a time.

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Exactly, exactly. We're really excited to have you on because last last episode, we did kind of part one, and we touted sex and Christian culture. And we really kind of looking at, there seems to be maybe two extremes happening within Christian culture. So you kind of have the purity movement of like, 80s 90s into the early 2000s. And we even talked about how that could be characterized, somewhat characterized as the sexual prosperity gospel was kind of like if you wade into all this, then when you get married, dubs will descend from the hip, and like almost any iteration of the prosperity gospel, there are issues. Right? Yeah, exactly. A lot of probably that happened. Oh, my goodness, yes. And then there seems to be on the other side, kind of maybe a reaction against that to kind of a kind of a disregard of the sexual biblical ethic, like, Oh, that is, you know, seen as prudish or seen as, and we're talking within Christian culture, too. I mean, right. Right, both of those within Christian culture. Right. Right.

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And so we're trying to figure out how, you know, with those, you know, with that happening, how we can possibly reframe the conversation.

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And we certainly need to write because neither of those things work. Oh, yeah. They I can tell you from the therapeutic PR side. They don't work. Right.

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Yeah, they really don't. And and I think that is the heart behind this is how do we start to because we it's a topic we need to talk about. We need to talk about more. But we also need to talk about it in a way that's going to be helpful. Be great practice goals. Yeah, just just heaping on more guilt or shame, doesn't help or yelling louder. Yelling louder. I

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talked about that last time. Or disregarding it or just ignoring it. Boy. Yeah. I think I mentioned this last time I had kind of, you know, avoided the elephant in the room for years in my Christian perspective class, and finally started feeling really guilty about